Showing posts with label Monica Seles. Show all posts
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Saturday, February 12, 2011

Historic Face Of The Day

Stacey Martin of the United States makes a double handed return  against Monica Seles during their Women's Singles match at the French  Open Tennis Championship on 28th May 1989 at the Stade Roland Garros  Stadium in Paris, France.
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Stacey Martin of the United States makes a double handed return against Monica Seles during their Women's Singles match at the French Open Tennis Championship on 28th May 1989 at the Stade Roland Garros Stadium in Paris, France.

Saturday, July 17, 2010

GOAT Theory 101: Transcendental “Qualitative” Meditation.

 

So which is it people?

 

Is she or ain’t she?

 

For those that missed it (report to the headmasters office), Wertheim thinks she is and  opened up the latest chapter in the debate no-one-wants-to-admit-to-wanting-to-debate with this little number.

 

The subsequent response has, by all accounts, been overwhelming – both in it’s support and it’s vitriol.

 

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“Hate her”?  Never mind.

 

Tignor was one of those who didn’t agree

 

Me, I’m on Wertheim’s side.

 

Whether or not you choose to crown her GOAT, DOE or any other category of thoroughbred livestock, it does now seem reasonable to speak of her in the same breath as the “tennis greats” – what’s more, is you can do this without getting into how many Slams she has or might yet win.

 

Tignor set out his stall by deconstructing, piece by piece, the central tenets of the pro-Serena lobby (both those coming from Wertheim and his mailbag respondents).

 

I agreed with most of what he said, just as I agreed with most of what Wertheim had to say – which shows, I suppose, the utter folly of it all.

 

Not that that’s going to put anyone off any time soon.

 

Then Steve began talking about H2Hs and intra-era domination and I was back in Camp Wertheim again, this time watching a more self-assured version of myself deconstruct Tignor’s deconstruction.

 

» “None of the others had to play her sister in a final.”

 

Not that playing Venus doesn’t represent a unique psychological proposition, but still – why exactly is this relevant?

 

(Tignor 1, Wertheim 0)

 

» “She has also won 12 major women’s doubles titles, two major mixed titles, and two double gold medals.”

 

I accord doubles a unique position in the game and I still don’t think it gets quite the respect it’s due. But do I think it should factor into the Best-Ever debate?

 

No I don’t.

 

(Tignor 1, Wertheim 0)

 

» “She’s been winning them since she was 17.”

 

As Tignor shows, you can use this to argue anything you want. Just as you can take any other stat and extrapolate from it any conclusion that fits the bill – your particular  bill.

 

(Tignor 2, Wertheim 1)

 

»  “The most important stroke in tennis is the serve, and Williams’s is the most fearsome in women’s history.”

 

No question about that, and certainly talk of how the serve makes the job of dominating that much easier might reasonably add fodder to the debate - in the same way that popcorn sometimes does.

 

By the same token, however, and as Tignor shows, “greatness” is about more than any individual stroke, however devastating.

 

And popcorn is sometimes just popcorn – a fluffy, insubstantial, low calorie food substitute.

 

(Tignor 3, Wertheim 1)

 

» “If you matched tennis’s female legends head-to-head—all at their best, with identical equipment—Williams wouldn’t just beat the others; she’d crush them.”

 

This is the argument that carries most weight with me. Dunno about “crush”, though distil it further and this amounts to simply saying that Serena is better than anyone and everyone else.

 

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That, all things being equal, on a level playing field, adjusting for inter-era disparities of age, physique, technology & nail-filing abilities,  playing under a moonless sky with wooden racquets on hallowed turf within the hedgerows of that halfway house that lies somewhere in between the yellow-brick road and the end of the rainbow, with Mohd Lahyani officiating and with a diet of moonshine and “Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers” served up during the changeovers, Serena comes out on top nine times out of ten.

 

I love this hypothetical “ground-zero” setup. I love it for it’s simplicity. I also love it for the fact that it’s a complete nonsense.

 

But most of all, I love it for the way it cuts both neatly and indiscriminately through those needless swaths of statistics and subjectivity – for the way it applies Occam’s Razor to the GOATs beard and ends up shaving it clean off.

 

(Tignor 3, Wertheim 2)

 

Allowing us, mere mortals,to abtract ourselves away from all that shite about H2Hs and Calendar Grand Slams to focus on what should matter: how all these greats stack up against one another, viewed in a purely transcendent qualitative light.

 

And here’s the part of the rebuttal I have a problem with:

 

Serena would crush Court and Evert, I agree, and beat Graf and Navratilova most of the time. But I would also say that the 500th-ranked man on the ATP tour right now would beat Don Budge—at his best, with identical equipment—like a drum. Does that make No. 500 from 2010 a greater player and champion than Budge, or Tilden, or Gonzalez?

 

Saying the 500th ranked male could beat Budge or, indeed, Laver in his prime is not so much an argument against Serena being GOAT as it is against anyone being GOAT.

 

In any case, it’s yet another variation on the folly of inter-era comparisons.

 

Though if GOAThood is such a flawed concept (and it is), you can’t argue Serena isn’t GOAT anymore than you can that she is.

 

(Tignor 3, Wertheim 3)

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Ditto, saying that you can’t penalise players for being born in years gone by.

 

Every player, obviously, is a product of his or her era. The best player of any era has trained and designed her game to beat the opponents she has to face on the court—nothing more, nothing less. You can’t penalize Graf and Navratilova for not making themselves good enough in their primes to beat a hypothetical future opponent.

If Serena had made her debut, say, three years after Graf’s debut, and Serena had started taking Slams from her, Steffi would have been forced to change her game to meet this challenge. We’ll never know how that would worked out, so all we can do to compare them is to look at their overall records during the times when they were playing.

 

An admirable but ultimately flawed sentiment.

 

People will always talk of GOATS for the same reason people will always buy talk of GOATs.  And when they do, it seems to me that they’ll prune whomsoever they want from the debate – mostly, it has to be said, players from years gone by.

 

You can argue against doing that, but it’s the same logic that sees us prune the Pre-Open Era in it’s entirety, and I don’t see half so many people arguing against that.

 

(Tignor 3, Wertheim 4)

 

Despite that, Tignor’s point about unfair penalisation does sound reasonable. It’s not Steffi’s fault, after all, that she turned pro in 1982 (at the age of 13…ulp)  anymore than it’s Suzanne Lenglen’s fault that she was born in 1899.

 

(Tignor 4, Wertheim 4)

 

Though it’s worth remembering that the converse hold true too: It’s not Serena’s fault that she turned pro in 1995 and thereby unwittingly made herself unavailable for foolproof comparisons with Billie Jean King.

 

Furthermore, consider for a moment what precisely it means to never be able to penalise anyone for being born in a previous era.

 

Every time you pronounce Federer, Serena, Sampras, Steffi or, for that matter, BJK or Margaret Court, “the GOAT”, you are at once, in a single sweep and in no more than six syllables, penalising everyone that came before them.

 

Obeying the “no penalisation” rule completely and without compromise, precludes us from ever discussing GOATs, their sub species and any further genetically-cloned derivations thereof.

 

Which is fine, say, if you’re calling for their abolition  - it’s a deeply flawed, deeply populist idea, after all,  that deserves to be shown for what it is.

 

You’d also be well within your rights to  preface anything you might want to say with the standard “I don’t do GOATs, but….” disclaimer.

 

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Once you accept the plausibility of the debate (if not the integrity of it) and dive in, however,  it’s utter folly to shy away from wanting to penalise anyone.

 

(Tignor 4, Wertheim 5)

 

And as with the Federer-Nadal head-to-head argument, the fact that someone can beat another player doesn't make them "greater"—top players play to win tournaments, not beat certain individuals.

The same will be true when a young serve-and-volleying Russian starts racking up Slams 15 years from now. We won’t be able to look back and penalize Serena for not having made her game consistent or versatile enough to have beaten her.

 

In other words, H2Hs should neither determine nor detract from claims to greatness.

 

I agree.

 

I would go a step further: it’s less important what your individual head-to-head against your greatest rival or the world #2 or, indeed, any other player is, than is the question of your head to head against the rest of the field.

 

The latter is a true measure of domination, the former just popcorn.

 

In any case, head to heads only ever feed into the GOAT debate – they don’t define who or what GOATs are. If we must question Federer’s GOAThood, it shouldn’t be because of his less polished record against Nadal.

 

» “Williams plays in a far more competitive and demanding era.”

 

You can argue for or, as Tignor does, against this. More interesting, however, are his thoughts on dominance. Intra-era dominance:

 

The more important point, though, is that the perceived level of competition in every era is skewed by the level of dominance of the top player. If Graf had never existed, Gabriela Sabatini would likely have been a five-six-seven-time Slam winner rather than a one-timer. If Court had never existed, we’d be talking about Billie Jean King as the best of all time. And while Serena has been the best player of the last decade and of her era, she hasn’t dominated the best player not named Williams, Justine Henin. Serena is 8-6 overall against Henin, but 2-4 at the majors.

 

If Serena’s claim to greatness is diminished because she hasn’t dominated Henin, then so is Federer’s. Except that’s all rather at odds with what was being suggested before, that individual head to heads “neither determine nor detract from greatness” – it seems they do at least factor into the question of why you’re not the greatest.

 

(Tignor 4, Wertheim 6)

 

I haven’t got a beef with Steve (even though I agree with Wertheim). My point here is to illustrate that anyone engaged in “best-ever” pub talk will inevitably, at some point, run into another version of themselves arguing the exact opposite of what they thought they believed in – and their equally well-versed counterpart will be armed with equally well-reasoned arguments that they’ll be equally willing to bash you over the head with. Leading to a series of equally well-rounded welts.

 

The bottom line is that in each era, the women we’ve mentioned took on the best competition in the world at that moment and raised themselves above it. That’s all you can ask.

 

Well if that’s all we can ask, then we’re really shafted. And we probably shouldn’t ever talk about GOATs

 

More seriously though, it seems as though we’re stuck debating the best-ever question whether we like it or not, it piques the romantic sensibility of the populace like nothing else. Wertheim and Tignor don’t seem to mind either.

 

It would appear instructive, however, to do so in purely transcendent qualitative terms, without getting bogged down with all that statistical baggage about H2Hs and Slam-counts, which, as we’ve seen, can be used to prove that the moon is made of mushy-peas. Or, indeed, that it isn’t.

 

Which seems to me to be what Jon Wertheim was hinting at:

 

But I think it counts for a lot that no one has ever played tennis at a higher level than Serena has. (It's the same reason, incidentally, that I was early to pronounce Federer the male GOAT. You just know watching him that no one has played better tennis qualitatively and surely that has to count for something.)

 

The clincher. You just know. When you’re in the presence of greatness. Don’t you?

 

After all, I can say without any reservation whatsoever that I don’t believe Chris Evert is the best ever. No slight intended, though feel free to hurl Mississippi Mud Pies at me.

 

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I’m less sure about Navratilova. And when it comes to Serena and Steffi, I’m almost certain I’m in the presence of, if not the very-best,  a darn good approximation of whatever my intangible, unspeakably subjective notion of the “greatest” might be.

 

(Tignor 4, Wertheim 7)

 

It’s not foolproof. It’s not meant to be. But then neither is talk of Slam-counts, domination, and H2Hs, all of which still feed into the debate – but no longer own it.

 

The one rebuttal that does carry some weight turns out, funnily (or un-funnily) enough, to be the “weak era theory”.

 

Serena dominated at a time when Henin, Masha and, to a lesser extent, Davenport were her greatest competition.

 

Contrast that with Steffi who dominated the way she did in a field comprised of Navratilova, Seles, Hingis and, again, to a lesser extent, Davenport. Not to mention the “lesser champions”, a category that includes Sanchez-Vicario and Sabatini, making up IMO, a better overall field.

 

(Tignor 5, Wertheim 7)

 

Even that, however, doesn’t preclude us from pronouncing Serena or, for that matter, Steffi a better player than Navratilova or Evert or Court or Lenglen…that’s the unabashed qualitative beauty of it.

 

If, based on the evidence supplied, you still want to say Serena is the best of her time (as Tignor headlines his piece) and leave it at that, then that’s fine.

 

Though you can’t have it both ways and should probably stand on the “Greatest-of-their-time” side of the fence rather than the  “Greatest-of-all-time” side of it whenever the question comes up.

 

Including when it comes up in relation to Federer.

 

(Final Score: Tignor 5, Wertheim 7)

Saturday, January 30, 2010

Serena Williams Wins Lengendary No. 12

Serena Williams of the U.S. poses with the champion's trophy after defeating Belgium's Justine Henin in the women's singles final at the Australian Open tennis tournament in Melbourne January 30, 2010.
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It wasn't always pretty, but Serena Williams rained on Justine Henin's fairytale comeback parade to take her fifth Australian Open crown, an Open Era record.

Fighting through nerves, sticky feet, and legs heavy as wet hay, the world No. 1 picked apart Henin's game at the most crucial moments of the match for a gritty 6-4, 3-6, 6-2 victory on Rod Laver Arena last night.

It's the first time the American defended a Slam since Wimbledon 2003. The first to defend a title Down Under since Jennifer Capriati in 2002. And she finally broke the even-year jinx, winning a title in the first year of the decade to go with crowns in 2003, 2005, 2007, 2009.

Serena has now won a Slam in three different decades, beginning with her maiden US Open title in 1999 at age seventeen.

With the victory, she claimed her 12th major title, equaling her idol Billie Jean King for sixth place on the all-time list. Serena now trails only Margaret Smith Court (24), Steffi Graf (22), Helen Wills Moody (19), Martina Navratilova (19) and Chris Evert (18).

With her five Australian Opens, she surpasses Smith Court, Graf, Monica Seles, and Evonne Goolagong for the most won in the Open Era. And she improves her overall winning percentage in Grand Slam finals to 12-3 (.800) the best among active players, woman or man.

Henin, who retired in a cloud of questions 20 months ago, was trying to repeat Kim Clijsters' comeback success by winning her first major entered, and to become the second unranked woman to win a Slam in the Open Era. (Bet I know who Clijsters was rooting for last night.) Despite Henin's run to the finals, she'll remain unranked on Monday. The WTA rankings system requires three events on the computer before spitting out a number before your name.

The Little Backhand That (Almost) Could played brilliantly in stretches and fought like she always fights, but it wasn't enough to overcome a determined defending champion. Despite being mummified with tape on her right thigh and left calf, and playing every day of the event for the last week and a half, including defending her doubles title with her big sister the day before, Serena had two practice sessions earlier in the day to get her feet moving and prepare for Henin's low slices.

In the first few games of the match, you would've never known. Serena had to serve 29 times, fight through two break points and five deuces just to hold her opening service game. She broke Henin's serve to lead 3-1 but faced another 15-40 deficit. She saved the first break point with a 119 MPH service winner.

On the second, a controversial line call denied the Belgian a break back. Henin played a great point to win the game but it had to be replayed because the linesperson called Henin's short volley out, corrected herself, but Serena chased the ball down and got her racquet on it. The crowd booed. When Serena struck another service winner to save break point, Henin cursed behind the baseline, and the crowd booed again. From thereon, it was firmly in Henin's corner.

Serena dropped the next three games to level the set and 4-4, but composed herself and broke Henin again in the ninth game to take the first set.

40 for 40 in wins Down Under after taking the first set, Serena was poised to run away with the match. Leading 3-2 in set two, she earned a break point on Henin's serve, but hit a forehand into Melbourne. After a few more deuces, Henin held on.

At 3-3, 30-0, Serena tossed in a wild double fault that landed halfway between the service line and the baseline. I gagged. So did Serena. She won a single point the rest of the set. Her feet froze, her mind wandered, and Henin took full advantage, striking line-cleaning winners off both wings from all over the court to win the set 6-3 and level the match.

MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA - JANUARY 30:  Justine Henin of Belgium celebrates winning a point in her women's final match against Serena Williams of the United States of America during day thirteen of the 2010 Australian Open at Melbourne Park on January 30, 2010 in Melbourne, Australia.
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Surely the match was now Henin's to lose, right? After all, she had the advantage of opening the third set on her serve.

After both players took an extended bathroom break, Serena returned to the court composed and ready to take names. After the match, she told Mary Jo Fernandez she might not ever get another chance and had to "man up", dig in and go for it. But that's not exactly what she did.

The intensity when these two play is unrivaled and I wasn't sure who would raise her game, hold it together, and seize control of the match. Was this see-saw affair headed to 12-10 in the third?

Momentum still on her side, Henin opened the set with a strong hold at love. Serena once again had to save 15-40 on her serve to level the match. After trading three nervy breaks, Serena finally consolidated one to lead 4-2. The finish line in view, the defending champ switched tactics, adding more topspin and less pace to her shots, spreading the court with angles instead of depth. Henin had trouble creating her own pace on the higher bouncing shots and finally capitulated another break to a fiercely focused Serena who was not to be denied.

Serena Williams of the U.S. celebrates after defeating Justine Henin of Belgium in the women's final match of the Australian Open tennis tournament in Melbourne January 30, 2010.
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With a strong service game, including the fastest ace of the match at 123 MPH, Serena closed out the tug of war in two hours and seven minutes. Falling on her back in victory, relief broke over her face like surf. When she finally got up to approach the net, she could hardly walk, a fortnight of fatigue on full display. Almost thought she was going to fall down again before reaching the stands and sharing celebratory hugs with her mother and sister.

MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA - JANUARY 30:  Serena Williams of the United States of America is congratulated by her sister Venus Williams after the women's final match against Justine Henin of Belgium during day thirteen of the 2010 Australian Open at Melbourne Park on January 30, 2010 in Melbourne, Australia.
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A double duty champion Down Under two years running and fifth overall, Serena the Great put out an extraordinary effort. Now that she's reached her goal of equaling King's Slam victories, she may be more relaxed on the crushed brick of Paris and finally win another crown there.

Henin surely will have something to say about that.

Serena Williams of the U.S. winks during the awarding ceremony after winning her women's singles final match against Belgium's Justine Henin (L) at the Australian Open tennis tournament in Melbourne January 30, 2010.
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Serena Williams of the U.S. holds the champion's trophy after winning her women's singles final match against Belgium's Justine Henin (R) at the Australian Open tennis tournament in Melbourne January 30, 2010.
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MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA - JANUARY 30:  Serena Williams of the United States of America poses with the Daphne Akhurst Trophy in Garden Square after her women's final match win against Justine Henin of Belgium during day thirteen of the 2010 Australian Open at Melbourne Park on January 30, 2010 in Melbourne, Australia.
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